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PostSubject: BUYING FROM BRAZIL   Mon Jun 20, 2011 5:30 pm

Hello, dose anybody have any knowledge on buying and shipping a Van or two from Brazil?? Pete.
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PostSubject: Re: BUYING FROM BRAZIL   Mon Jun 20, 2011 5:37 pm


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PostSubject: Re: BUYING FROM BRAZIL   Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:12 pm

Thank mate

I'm pringing that off, I got this mate who thinks there's a load of split screen van over there just waiting to be brought for not much, true/not??
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PostSubject: Re: BUYING FROM BRAZIL   Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:28 am

snowdrop wrote:
257spring wrote:
Thank mate

I'm pringing that off, I got this mate who thinks there's a load of split screen van over there just waiting to be brought for not much, true/not??

Does he need your bank details first, are his spelling and grammar not so good, does he end every sentence with 'my friend' my friend ?

Thats what I thought 'my friend' cyclops
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PostSubject: Re: BUYING FROM BRAZIL   Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:00 pm

No dosn't do the My freind thing, he's into VW vans and owns one, I don't think anyone here has any real knowledge on the subject.. I'm looking for a customs agent in Brazil to get the thing on the ship that end, also a would like to know if there are lots of split screen vans over there?? If so It might be worth the hassel, regards Peter.
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PostSubject: Re: BUYING FROM BRAZIL   Sun Jun 26, 2011 3:36 pm

I wouldn't bother it was done years ago ,they all know the price of them now there is no money in them. A reeal pain, we got some back about six years back . It took eleven months to get them back you really need some one over there who speak the language and they strip them of parts at the docks
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PostSubject: Re: BUYING FROM BRAZIL   Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:50 pm

Thanks Zac

thats some good info

cheers Pete
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PostSubject: Re: BUYING FROM BRAZIL   Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:23 am

I've just moved here, March 2011 (Brazil) ... I've been having so much trouble getting vans out of this country for so many years that where Johnny Laker brought his airway, I moved here to find out what's really going on with our vans ... heh.

Jokes aside, a family member of mine imports and exports the diplomatary vehicles to Brasilia from places like the US and Canada. They have to pay a fee in the region of about US$10,000 per vehicle, per direction, once in (& if they don't sell it or kill it), once out.

Now I just can't get my head round that figure "atall" and recon that Embassies (rather like public works) are completely overpriced. So I'm doing my best to find out what the real scoop is.

Leave it with me guys, I'm on it.

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PostSubject: Re: BUYING FROM BRAZIL   Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:04 pm

257spring wrote:
No dosn't do the My freind thing, he's into VW vans and owns one, I don't think anyone here has any real knowledge on the subject.. I'm looking for a customs agent in Brazil to get the thing on the ship that end, also a would like to know if there are lots of split screen vans over there?? If so It might be worth the hassel, regards Peter.

There are very few Splitties in Rio, There are a good few in Brasilia still in need of TLC and everything in Sao Paulo (splitty-wise) has pretty much been done. There are some good prices for Pimped Splitties in Sao Paulo though ... it's just a bit of a dodgy city for a foreigner without an escort. If they see you with an escort the price will rocket.

I ask my housekeeper to make calls for me (not even my wife, whom is also Brasilian but suffers for her crime of education) ... that way a native is being spoken to by a native and a more correct (at least ... realistic maybe) price is given.

If I can help, drop me a line.

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PostSubject: Re: BUYING FROM BRAZIL   Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:59 pm

Hi guys, this message is in reply to 257spring, but may also be of some interest to the rest of you.

800 quid isn't really going to get you very far atall but I might find a few shells for that kinda dosh. I'm currently haggling a local guy on a '73 5 door splitty samba. It's a wreck, covered in filler with windows, hinges and seats missing but it runs, and I'm having trouble getting him under the R$3500 (1340 quid) mark. Besides that, I'm going to want a small reward for my trouble which, without being silly means that you will be looking at between 1500 - 1800 quid for something simple. I emailed you a list of completed vans worth about 3500 - 4000 pounds to express my point here which is "why spend 2 grand on a wreck that will cost you about 4 grand (plus shipping) to get back together, when you can spend 4 grand in total (plus shipping) on a beautiful and completed van".

When I do buy vans, I'll have to register them in my name, store them and as you say get them to Rio. The framing and tyres thing is pretty much commonsence as are many other shipping practices for vehicle concern, but we're nowhere near that point yet.

There is a sort of "pirate route" out of Rio as you say by knocking on the port doors but you can forget a guarantee, everything is a bit iffy that way and things have a habbit of going missing for months on end. If I was to be shipping a number of vans at a time, I'd want somekind of guarrantee and this place can be as lively as Nigeria when it comes down to that kind of thing so to be even considering that route you are about to shoot yourself in the foot and I will not be playing. It's great for the odd tourist "getaway with it" kind of deal but that's about it, once they recognise your face after van 3 or 4 (if you're lucky) be prepared for some very heavy s***.

Shipping out, unless you want to do an awful lot of work (which you can consider as your equivalent commission % if you like) is usually handled by a freight forwarding company. I have come a cropper in a number of foreign countries - on the cheap as a one man band - and I'm just not willing to take that chance from here, it's not worth it, not for me anyway.

The reason that export is handled by freight forwarding (and why I have chosen that path) is that the export laws in this country change more regularly than your underwear, for whatever reason that you may have for not abiding by those laws you're in prison before your ... "what phonecall?"

The way I see it is this;

1. I purchace the vehicles, register and legalise them in my name.
2. Un-rolling vehicles I offer to you at a fee.
3. Rolling sheds at a fee and running vehicles at a fee.
4. I also offer certain other vehicle restoration services to you that may be more expensive in Europe at a fee.
5. I organise the shipping of the vehicles at a fee.
6. I prepare legal documentation and vehicle tracking at a fee.
7. I ship the vehicles to the UK with payment order holding; where you can check the vehicles for default.
8. Upon reciept by me of the full costs or agreed default cost, the vehicles are released to you at the UK port or (should you not pay) are left to my own command.

I am fully aware of the selling costs of decent splitties in Europe and I'm not atall bewildered about installing my own sales office/forecourt over there somewhere. I would hope to be able to achieve steps 5-7 at a reasonable all inclusive fee. I would imagine also that there would be some tax (or non-taxed) incentives for us also if we arranged payments through an offshore account ... but let's keep it all realistic eh.

Re:- Logistics meeting, wouldn't it be better for us to meet over here? ... that way I can show you the Port Door at Rio, the kinds of vehicles on offer here first hand and you can give me a direct list of your preferred do's and don'ts... we may even be able to give a shipping option a trial run with a bogey van of somesort.

Best regards
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PostSubject: Re: BUYING FROM BRAZIL   Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:20 am

You will be happy to hear that as an individual and somewhat "Taxed"- 'cos I'm a foreign twit - I can at least import your VW kombi requirements "running vehicle" stylie, direct to the UK ... I can probably save you about a grand, maybe 2, maybe more on your vehicle of choice ... but keep calm, let's have an orderly line ... and give it a go.

Some people have been out for a winner whilst I've been looking over this. If you ask me, the whole point of being part of a club - is to be part of a club.

I can deliver 2 vans at a time to the UK and have a mate that will deal with all the nasty stuff for you ok. That way, with a couple of quid to him for his troubles, you get a beauty of a beast.

Once I know exact prices I'll let you know, but yer onto a winner mate, it's cool.

Grand example: http://www.kieftenklok.nl/uk/index.php?url=/uk/voorraad.php ... heheheh but better!

Jme farao
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PostSubject: Re: BUYING FROM BRAZIL   Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:47 am

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PostSubject: Re: BUYING FROM BRAZIL   Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:36 am

Good Advice Tim. You dont want the forum dragged into this. There is a lot to be said for buying in the UK where you are covered by UK law and you can drive to see who you are dealing with (and the vehicle) and if you buy from a UK dealer (any established good dealer) you get a warranty and can always book an RAC inspection (or simular inspection) ....No 'hello my friend' comments either. Send money Mr... Mad The choice is there though but not even I would be brave enough just to ' save a grand or maybe two ' for the extra risk and hassle (these are my personal comments and everyone to their own)
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PostSubject: Re: BUYING FROM BRAZIL   Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:29 pm

Sound advice I think, Tim and Jason........
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PostSubject: Kombis from Brazil   Thu Aug 06, 2015 5:28 pm

I export kombis from Brazil. We are customers in UK, Germany, Sweden, USA and others.

With all documents as Invoice, Packing List, intl. freight and insurance and Customs clearence for a quickly shipping.

Any doubt, please, talk to me about.
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