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AbsintheKombi

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PostSubject: Insurance for Hirers   Insurance for Hirers EmptyMon Sep 09, 2013 11:46 am

Help please guys.

One of my insurance broking friends has a client who hires out Classic T2s (their words not mine!)

They need to fix some insurance cover for them - can you point me towards which insurers/brokers you use for Self-drive hire cover please?


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PostSubject: Re: Insurance for Hirers   Insurance for Hirers EmptyMon Sep 09, 2013 12:29 pm

A1 motorhome

Tel 01733 233552

We have set up with them but have never let anybody use the van yet

Think it's about £28.00 per day but cheaper if they hire for longer periods
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PostSubject: Re: Insurance for Hirers   Insurance for Hirers EmptyMon Sep 09, 2013 5:06 pm

Or Alan Boswell Ins for an annual 'all-in' policy that includes private use as well as SDH and public liability.

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PostSubject: Re: Insurance for Hirers   Insurance for Hirers EmptyMon Sep 09, 2013 5:13 pm

Thanks guys - anyone else? - I'm loathe to recommend Alan Boswell (no matter how good they are) as they're our bitter competitors in the Motor Factor Sector! LOL!

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PostSubject: Re: Insurance for Hirers   Insurance for Hirers EmptyMon Sep 09, 2013 6:18 pm

Insure Car Hire offer both daily rate or annual policies.

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PostSubject: Re: Insurance for Hirers   Insurance for Hirers EmptyTue Sep 10, 2013 3:03 pm

Just bumping this up - any more info?

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PostSubject: Re: Insurance for Hirers   Insurance for Hirers EmptyFri Nov 20, 2015 12:06 am

Just rang Insurecarhire as their complete package seemed the best for a new start up, as the insurance is per hire day rather than annual fixed premium. Horrified to find that their fixed set up fee has almost doubled to £1000 and daily hire rate doubled to £32 a day since I first discussed in August. Does anybody know of an alternative provider offering similar set up
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PostSubject: Re: Insurance for Hirers   Insurance for Hirers EmptyFri Nov 20, 2015 10:33 am

Take a look at camperbug.co.uk

As well as an online directory for campers to hire, they also offer daily rate insurance for hires whether arranged through them or elsewhere.

I believe they are also one of our site advertisers.

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PostSubject: Re: Insurance for Hirers   Insurance for Hirers EmptyFri Nov 20, 2015 10:53 am

thank you, will do. As a further question, who do you have your public liability insurance with? So many providers but not sure if there is a Camper specialist
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PostSubject: Re: Insurance for Hirers   Insurance for Hirers EmptyTue Jan 12, 2016 9:42 pm

still working on getting ready for hiring this year. Latest challenge is the lack of clarity from insurance companies. We currently have private use insurance with Comfort but seek "for hire" insurance to kick in when we start to hire, hopefully in March 2016
Comfort tell me that you cannot have two policies on the insurance database at the same time yet insurecarhire, the probable providers of the business insurance, tell me they offer insurance that only kicks in on hire and sits comfortably alongside private policy. Currently talking to camperbug about what they can offer. Surely it cannot be this difficult, any advice gratefully received
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PostSubject: Re: Insurance for Hirers   Insurance for Hirers EmptyTue Jan 12, 2016 11:10 pm

Generally speaking, call centre staff only operate by the rules they are given. IE, "a vehicle can only have one insurance policy at a time".

In practice, this is not entirely correct but trying to speak to them about it gets them in a flap and they tend to back away assuming you are attempting some kind of insurance fraud.

The terms of the policy with Comfort state that the vehicle is "not insured if be driven by anyone not covered by the policy, being driven in relation to the motor trade or hire or reward", or something like that in any case. So in my opinion that makes things quite simple. While your vehicle IS on hire, it is NOT covered by the Comfort policy, but by the self-drive hire policy you took out with the hirers details.

The exact same applies when your vehicle (camper or otherwise) goes for a service or repair, while being driven or looked after by the mechanic/garage, it is covered under their motor vehicle policy and not yours even though at no point does anyone call up their insurance company to tell them "it's going for a service".

You just need to ensure you keep very good records of the precise times when it is on hire etc in order to avoid any doubt as to the insurance cover at the time of any incident.

PS: I'm pretty sure you will find CamperBug to be more reasonably priced than insurecarhire although it is a while since I have done the comparison myself.

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PostSubject: Re: Insurance for Hirers   Insurance for Hirers EmptySun Jan 17, 2016 10:07 pm

Many thanks, will continue to juggle all the ideas until I arrive at a solution, all your advice gratefully received
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PostSubject: Re: Insurance for Hirers   Insurance for Hirers EmptyTue May 24, 2016 2:15 pm

Alison has a new project space and is looking at trying to set up a scheme for Campervan Hirers. If you hire your van out at the moment I'd appreciate some info from you:

Who do you use for insurance at the moment?

What's good about the cover/service/delivery?

What could be improved?

Can you pay by instalments?

What extra would be in your wish list?

Who would you recommend to a friend or are all the suppliers much of a muchness?

If you don't want to reply via this post feel free to PM me or have a chat at the Sleepover or Northern Meet.


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PostSubject: Re: Insurance for Hirers   Insurance for Hirers EmptyTue May 24, 2016 2:19 pm

@AbsintheKombi wrote:
Alison has a new project space and is looking at trying to set up a scheme for Campervan Hirers. If you hire your van out at the moment I'd appreciate some info from you:

Who do you use for insurance at the moment?

What's good about the cover/service/delivery?

What could be improved?

Can you pay by instalments?

What extra would be in your wish list?

Who would you recommend to a friend or are all the suppliers much of a muchness?

If you don't want to reply via this post feel free to PM me or have a chat at the Sleepover or Northern Meet.


Happy to chat about it at the sleepover or Northern meet.

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PostSubject: Re: Insurance for Hirers   Insurance for Hirers EmptyWed Feb 20, 2019 11:58 am

OK
Have just spent a tortuous morning trying to sort insurance on Colin. Most insurance companies back away when you mention hiring but here are my findings

Camperbug offer daily and periodic insurance whether hired through them or not. Short hire is expensive @ £20-30 a day, but this drops to £18 a day for a 3 day hire and they also offer period insurance [3 months = c.£300] which works over the summer if you have a few hires

As for the mainstream insurance, I was using whittlesey, who entertain the dual insurance model, but this was expensive this year so just switched to Lancaster, underwritten by LV/Highway. Need to check the docs but they seemed to understand and entertain that I would behiring and seperately insured whilst doing so
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PostSubject: Re: Insurance for Hirers   Insurance for Hirers EmptyWed Feb 20, 2019 2:50 pm

@HOWARDBUCKLEY1 wrote:
OK
Have just spent a tortuous morning trying to sort insurance on Colin. Most insurance companies back away when you mention hiring but here are my findings

Camperbug offer daily and periodic insurance whether hired through them or not. Short hire is expensive @ £20-30 a day, but this drops to £18 a day for a 3 day hire and they also offer period insurance [3 months = c.£300] which works over the summer if you have a few hires

As for the mainstream insurance, I was using whittlesey, who entertain the dual insurance model, but this was expensive this year so just switched to Lancaster, underwritten by LV/Highway. Need to check the docs but they seemed to understand and entertain that I would behiring and seperately insured whilst doing so
Howard

Last time I checked (admittedly a while ago now) the Camperbug offering was the most competitive and flexible option. If you intend to have upwards of 50 (or so) days on hire then it might be worth looking at a complete on hire/personal use policy such as from Alan Boswell. It's not cheap (c. £1800pa) but covers you for both and should work out cheaper than a personal policy plus all the ad-hoc hire insurance costs if hiring for a total of 50 ish days.

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PostSubject: Re: Insurance for Hirers   Insurance for Hirers EmptyWed Feb 20, 2019 3:44 pm

Many thanks, hope my post added some useful info to the debate, its a bit of a nightmare and should be simple
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PostSubject: Re: Insurance for Hirers   Insurance for Hirers EmptyThu Feb 21, 2019 12:36 pm

@HOWARDBUCKLEY1 wrote:
Many thanks, hope my post added some useful info to the debate, its a bit of a nightmare and should be simple
Howard

Hi Howard. Cant add anything to the hire insurance but noticed your profile location is Nottingham.

I think you passed me on the a435 in Clifton a few days ago on way home from work. Black and white very nice looking kombi.

Did not wave as was in the daily driver returning home to loughborough. Nice to see another Brazilian in the east Midlands.

Steve

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