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PostSubject: samsung tv for aour Ronnie.   Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:48 am

Hi,
I'm needing some knowledge on fitting a tv to our Brazzi please.

Its just in for some interior mods and re fit and we are wanting to put a tv in.

we'd like a samsung brand as our phones are samsung also, and we can link the phones up with the tv then.

Has anyone any info on a samsung tv that we could put in our Ronnie?

Or is it ok to simply purchase one from comet etc.

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PostSubject: Re: samsung tv for aour Ronnie.   Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:59 am

Stating the obvious, you will want one that will run on a 12v DC supply otherwise it will only be any use while you have EHU, unless you also connect an inverter although that will seriously drain your leisure battery.

What is the purpose of connecting your phones? What does that 'add' to the television experience that can't be gained otherwise, and what is the likelihood of you changing you're phones in the not too distant?

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PostSubject: Re: samsung tv for aour Ronnie.   Wed Mar 25, 2015 10:41 am

thanks for coming back to me, we like Samsung phones and will stick with them.
they have a facility ' screen mirroring' that enables you to look at your phone via the tv screen eg, emails.. photos (which we take a lot), also the same for videos and films saved onto our sd card.

sorry to sound thick but are the normal domestic tvs able to run on 12v as well as mains?
I seem to think for some reason that there is a 12v to 240 adapter on some of them, but my knowledge is nil on electrics, hence the original question.

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PostSubject: Re: samsung tv for aour Ronnie.   Wed Mar 25, 2015 11:06 am

Samsung phones use a wireless interface called Allshare to connect to their TVs. Those TVs would have to be smart TVs supporting Allshare. I suspect that you might not be able to find a 12v Samsung smart TV. Allshare is supposed to conform to a standard called Miracast, but in practice different manufacturers' implementation of Miracast tend not to be compatible with each other. Samsung sell a device called Allshare Cast, which would plug into an HDMI socket on any 12v TV, which would enable you to do screen mirroring. I have a similar product from Netgear called Push2TV, but I have no idea whether it is compatible with Samsung. Good luck!
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PostSubject: Re: samsung tv for aour Ronnie.   Wed Mar 25, 2015 11:26 am

@timmm wrote:
sorry to sound thick but are the normal domestic tvs able to run on 12v as well as mains?
I seem to think for some reason that there is a 12v to 240 adapter on some of them, but my knowledge is nil on electrics, hence the original question.

Simple answer no, or at least 'probably not'.

TVs (and most other domestic devices) use a wide range of voltages, anything from 5v through to 48v, there is no consistency or 'standard' (AFAIK) across the industry, it is broadly based on the power consumption of the device/appliance and the cost of parts.

A few domestic TVs will be supplied with an additional 12v adapter that can be used, but this is very rare - a link to one was posted on here a few days ago: Flip Down Television - there 'might' be a Samsung that does but I wouldn't count on it.

A few domestic TVs will be running on 12v dc and using an inline transformer on the power cable to convert from household 240v AC. If this is definitely the case (you're best bet is to look at the tech details on the printed on the transformer itself) you could modify the power cable by removing the transformer and connecting the remaining cable directly (via an inline fuse and/or switch) to you're leisure battery. However, the chances of this being the case are not great.

Many domestic TVs house the transformer inside the actual TV so there is only a 240v (or 110v if it's switchable) input - kettle lead or similar - and some have a fixed cable with a regular plug on the end. So, in either case you would need to open up the TV to find the transformer inside before you would know what voltage it 'actually' uses, and IF it is 12v you could theoretically modify the cabling, but you would of course be voiding any warranty as well as introducing additional risk especially if you're not that good with electronics.

12v TVs tend to be specialist 'camping' items which are not normally big high street brands. There 'might' be a Samsung one, who knows.

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PostSubject: Re: samsung tv for aour Ronnie.   Wed Mar 25, 2015 12:38 pm

@Tallulah wrote:
@timmm wrote:
sorry to sound thick but are the normal domestic tvs able to run on 12v as well as mains?
I seem to think for some reason that there is a 12v to 240 adapter on some of them, but my knowledge is nil on electrics, hence the original question.

For running mains powered devices from 12V you could always just by an invertor. They are readily available from maplins or most camping shops.

The only thing you would need to work out is the power rating of the TV at 240V (this is shown on all TVs ratings plate or in the manual)

Once you have the rating in watts go out and buy a 12V DC to 240V AC invertor. You need to match or exceed the watts rating to ensure its provides enough power.

NOTE - The higher the wattage the higher the drain on the 12V battery. If you use mains hook up then just plug the TV into the 240V mains sockets when hooked up.
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PostSubject: Re: samsung tv for aour Ronnie.   Wed Mar 25, 2015 1:04 pm

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NOTE - The higher the wattage the higher the drain on the 12V battery. If you use mains hook up then just plug the TV into the 240V mains sockets when hooked up.

...and running a 240v device (like a TV) through an inverter from your 12v battery will likely be a serious drain. Don't expect it to last long if you don't have hook-up.

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PostSubject: Re: samsung tv for aour Ronnie.   Wed Mar 25, 2015 4:48 pm

Depends on the power consumption of the TV. Fluorescent or LED back light and the size of the TV. A small modern led back light uses typically 40-70 watts. Should last a while depending on other loads connected. Simple maths can be done if you know the capacity of battery and state of charge.

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PostSubject: Re: samsung tv for aour Ronnie.   Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:18 pm

If you decide Ronnie doesn't need the TV to be a samsung, I see there is a 12V TV in ALDI for £99 tomorrow. I am thinking about getting one. I have looked for a standard TV before but never found one.

https://www.aldi.co.uk/en/specialbuys/thur-26-mar/product-detail/ps/p/19-hd-ready-led-caravan-tv/

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PostSubject: Re: samsung tv for aour Ronnie.   Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:48 pm

Just read your replies, thank you for the help.

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PostSubject: Re: samsung tv for aour Ronnie.   Thu Mar 26, 2015 12:17 pm

gordonmac, thanks for the info re the tv/dvd.
just been to Aldi and bought the suggested tv.
Looks good i must say, so thanks for that....

My next question is fridge suggestions, Absorbtion v compressor type...

Pro's and cons please... Ive not a lot of room, and like the look at top loaders, front sliders as well as the conventional front opening door...thanks.

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PostSubject: Re: samsung tv for aour Ronnie.   Sun Apr 12, 2015 10:41 am

Hi Timmm,

I bought one of the TVs too - seems very good. I have put a removable mount behind passenger seat. I don't have a cigarette lighter socket in the rear though - and don't want to use the one in the cab area as it comes off the starter battery.

What are you doing about power to the TV?

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