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PostSubject: Brazil vs Germany    Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:52 pm

While I'm searching for my ideal camper I've been surfing the net quite a lot for info. Some of the stuff I've read seems to be quite misinformed regarding Brazilian built bays, I know the pros and cons but I was wondering if anyone on here had owned/driven an older type 2 and what made them go for a Brazilian?
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PostSubject: Re: Brazil vs Germany    Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:45 pm

@Dee James wrote:
While I'm searching for my ideal camper I've been surfing the net quite a lot for info. Some of the stuff I've read seems to be quite misinformed regarding Brazilian built bays, I know the pros and cons but I was wondering if anyone on here had owned/driven an older type 2 and what made them go for a Brazilian?

For us it was reliability. I don't mind a bit of tinkering, but I also don't want to be forced to tinker on the side of the road just to get to our destination or home again.

The new, modern engine in the aqua Brazibay makes it much more reliable, IMO.


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PostSubject: Re: Brazil vs Germany    Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:37 am

I have owned and drove aircooled vw almost all my life my fist was a 66 split this was my daily car and have had early and late bays t25s lots of bugs I have had my brazilian bay for about 8 years and wouldn't go back to an old 1 most bits are old and it's not practical to replace all parts so with the brazilian bay all parts were new not that long ago you have a good chance at not braking down and the classic bay body will be full of filler . The only problem with all vw old and new is rust but if you treat it won't be a problem
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PostSubject: Re: Brazil vs Germany    Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:03 am

@Tallulah wrote:
@Dee James wrote:
While I'm searching for my ideal camper I've been surfing the net quite a lot for info. Some of the stuff I've read seems to be quite misinformed regarding Brazilian built bays, I know the pros and cons but I was wondering if anyone on here had owned/driven an older type 2 and what made them go for a Brazilian?

For us it was reliability. I don't mind a bit of tinkering, but I also don't want to be forced to tinker on the side of the road just to get to our destination or home again.

The new, modern engine in the aqua Brazibay makes it much more reliable, IMO.


pretty much what has lead me to looking for one TBO
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PostSubject: Re: Brazil vs Germany    Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:56 am

@Dee James wrote:
@Tallulah wrote:
@Dee James wrote:
While I'm searching for my ideal camper I've been surfing the net quite a lot for info. Some of the stuff I've read seems to be quite misinformed regarding Brazilian built bays, I know the pros and cons but I was wondering if anyone on here had owned/driven an older type 2 and what made them go for a Brazilian?

For us it was reliability. I don't mind a bit of tinkering, but I also don't want to be forced to tinker on the side of the road just to get to our destination or home again.

The new, modern engine in the aqua Brazibay makes it much more reliable, IMO.


pretty much what has lead me to looking for one TBO
I was lucky if my split got me to run to the sun and back to wales but my brazilian bay got me to barcelona and back no problem I didn't even have any recovery insurance:)
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PostSubject: Re: Brazil vs Germany    Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:35 am

@dazdub wrote:
@Dee James wrote:
@Tallulah wrote:
@Dee James wrote:
While I'm searching for my ideal camper I've been surfing the net quite a lot for info. Some of the stuff I've read seems to be quite misinformed regarding Brazilian built bays, I know the pros and cons but I was wondering if anyone on here had owned/driven an older type 2 and what made them go for a Brazilian?

For us it was reliability. I don't mind a bit of tinkering, but I also don't want to be forced to tinker on the side of the road just to get to our destination or home again.

The new, modern engine in the aqua Brazibay makes it much more reliable, IMO.


pretty much what has lead me to looking for one TBO
I was lucky if my split got me to run to the sun and back to wales but my brazilian bay got me to barcelona and back no problem I didn't even have any recovery insurance:)

Really interesting to hear your perspective on this dazdub, i suspect most of the negative stuff you hear is n`t really based on personal experience.

Good to hear about your Barcelona trip, i`m planning on doing something similar in a couple of years once i have mine although i`m not sure i`m brave enough to do it without recovery insurance ;-)
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PostSubject: Re: Brazil vs Germany    Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:56 am

I hired an older T2 before buying our air-cooled Brazilian.
I found the drum brakes all round wanting me to open a window and throw out an anchor to assist stopping.
The steering was MUCH heavier. My arms hurt at the end of the weeks hire. I think you'd get used to it though.

And yes reliability. Meeting with older T2 owners I find they have an underseat full of tools and spares.
I too drove to Barcelona and back with no problems.

Rust is an issue on all of them.

I prefer the air-cooled personally. I find it easy to work on, easy to get parts and the sound is so authentic.

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PostSubject: Re: Brazil vs Germany    Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:22 pm

@Ronnie Ringding wrote:
I hired an older T2 before buying our air-cooled Brazilian.
I found the drum brakes all round wanting me to open a window and throw out an anchor to assist stopping.
The steering was MUCH heavier. My arms hurt at the end of the weeks hire. I think you'd get used to it though.

And yes reliability. Meeting with older T2 owners I find they have an underseat full of tools and spares.
I too drove to Barcelona and back with no problems.

Rust is an issue on all of them.

I prefer the air-cooled personally. I find it easy to work on, easy to get parts and the sound is so authentic.

i know what you mean, i went to see one a couple of weeks ago and as soon as it fired up it made me smile, memories of my dad's old square back and a beetle i once had.
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PostSubject: Re: Brazil vs Germany    Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:08 pm

I think Germany won on penalties Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Brazil vs Germany    Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:48 pm

@MarcusH wrote:
I think Germany won on penalties Very Happy

i did wonder how long it would be before a football reference got posted ;-)
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PostSubject: Re: Brazil vs Germany    Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:51 pm

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I think Germany won on penalties Very Happy

They usually do! Evil or Very Mad

As others have said above, ours was a desire to get in and be able to drive knowing we stood more than a 75% chance of getting to the destination without breaking down. Yes, I know the journey is part of the pleasure, but I don't want to go back to fixing cars to get them running; I did that earlier in life, I just want to enjoy it now.

It's also about the air-cooled sound for me too. cheers

(P.S. we do have breakdown cover!)

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PostSubject: Re: Brazil vs Germany    Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:43 pm

@Bumble wrote:
@MarcusH wrote:
I think Germany won on penalties Very Happy

They usually do! Evil or Very Mad

Not always . . .


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