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PostSubject: New Bay depreciation   Tue May 17, 2011 7:54 pm

Hi all, seriously considering laying out for a new/pre-loved bay. done some homework at danbury and VW downunder and it looks like I would have to spend 35k to get the spec i want - yikes :-()...

it would make me feel much more comfortable knowing that this is also an investment and the van would not depreciate too much! any views - how much would a new 35k van be worth after 3 years in top condition ?

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PostSubject: Re: New Bay depreciation   Tue May 17, 2011 8:30 pm

Have a little look at the brazzie bay classifieds section, will give you an idea on the price of second hand models.

Also consider how much you would loose if you brought a brand new £35k car and sold it in 3 years.

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PostSubject: Re: New Bay depreciation   Tue May 17, 2011 8:32 pm

Hey Steve - welcome!

The image of the BraziBay is decidedly on the way UP thanks to a lot of folk on here and its growing support base within the VW industry. This is undoubtedly going to have an effect on values.

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PostSubject: Re: New Bay depreciation   Wed May 18, 2011 1:23 pm

@stephenjedward wrote:
Hi all, seriously considering laying out for a new/pre-loved bay. done some homework at danbury and VW downunder and it looks like I would have to spend 35k to get the spec i want - yikes :-()...

it would make me feel much more comfortable knowing that this is also an investment and the van would not depreciate too much! any views - how much would a new 35k van be worth after 3 years in top condition ?

cheers
Steve



Hi Steve,
welcome along!

We bought our 06 bus a year old for 22k.The chap had bought it new for a ridiculous 35k.
Maybe he was happy to sell it at that price as he wanted a quick sale and we tipped up with the cash. He originally wanted 25k for it but as I said, a wad of cash and he was more than happy after an hours chat to sell it.

With a few second hand ones around and people wanting a quick sale, I reckon that this approach would get you a good deal. Some good ones around and I've noticed that the ones on ebay seem to be initially advertised quite high then the price drops or the best offer button creeps in.

Good luck and let us know how you get on.
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PostSubject: Re: New Bay depreciation   Wed May 18, 2011 2:47 pm

HI Steve,

Have a look at VWKampers.com we build the Brazilian campers brand new, massive specs for around the £30k mark....!!!

One we just built was fully loaded, all interior panels upholstered, lowered, alloys, pop top for £30k...

All with 2 years warranty and 12 months free servicing and no on the road charges!

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PostSubject: Re: New Bay depreciation   Wed May 18, 2011 7:24 pm

thks for the comments so far will have a good look
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PostSubject: Re: New Bay depreciation   Wed May 18, 2011 8:05 pm

Welcome to the forum Steve. Very Happy

If you have any questions just fire away. Everyone is nice and friendly Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: New Bay depreciation   Wed May 18, 2011 9:32 pm

Hi Steve,

We bought "peppa" last june and use her everyday as our main vehicle.She is a feb 2007 Danbury rio with the classic interior.She had 19000kms on the clock and came with fuch alloys,roof rack,awning,buddy seat,heated front screen,ipod stereo,bike rack,poptop,alarm/immob as well as the standard equipment on a rio.We paid £23000 for her and that was a bargain,right place ,right time.The first owner paid £34995.

Do your homework and buy your bus for the right reason...

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PostSubject: Re: New Bay depreciation   Thu May 19, 2011 9:05 am

@pastymaster wrote:
Welcome to the forum Steve. Very Happy

If you have any questions just fire away. Everyone is nice and friendly Very Happy

thks the reason I favour the newer brazilian is the *perceived* better realiability. although having looked around a fully restored 70's van is also looking appealing price wise....

what views on mechanical relaibility - fully restored (e.g VWKampers) vs new brazilan build/??

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PostSubject: Re: New Bay depreciation   Thu May 19, 2011 11:22 am

This is my view:

1. A new Kombi is a fresh body, new mechanics, new electrics - all installed at the Volkswagen factory. A restored Classic - albeit done to an excellent standard - is a 30+ year old body with mechanics and electrics installed by the restorer. So you're comparing major manufacturer with restorer. In my mind, the Classic is less of a Volkswagen for this reason, it doesn't mean the restorer hasn't done a good job. Originality always sits best with me.

2. A 2 litre Classic will keep up with a Kombi on the motorway, but will run out of fuel way before. 20mpg v 40mpg. The Kombi has a cat so is better for the environment.

3. All decent Classics will be left hand drive having come from abroad. A Kombi can be bought new with a right hand drive conversion.

4. The extra cabin height of the Kombi is a great advantage over the Classic when it comes to living within the vehicle.

5. Because the Kombi has a diagnostic plug, faults can be pinpointed quicker which leads to less time 'down' and less expenditure by the owner.

6. Buying a Kombi gives you the opportunity to be the first owner - something which I reckon you can't put a price on. How many owners would a Classic have had over the years? Again low ownership is something I personally like.

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