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neillitesteer

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PostSubject: Re: New Red9 Design wishbone and R&P front end   New Red9 Design wishbone and R&P front end - Page 3 EmptyTue Aug 01, 2017 8:57 am

It should help but to what extent will remain to bee seen. the van was fitted with one for good reason and despite what suspension system is used i felt that it should remain. hence coming up with a solution that retains it.

other factors are ride height and design of pop top roofs. unfortunately these vans have a large flat surface area therefore they will always be prone to wind shear.

As for the rear roll bar i have found the aftermarket bar to be quite stiff. it would be interesting to try one on a Brazilian van though but the results couldn't be guaranteed.


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tjcbhill

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PostSubject: Re: New Red9 Design wishbone and R&P front end   New Red9 Design wishbone and R&P front end - Page 3 EmptyWed Aug 23, 2017 4:36 pm

Serious looking kit ! I am very keen to have one fitted. I am assuming you need to tell your insurance company? did that have any detrimental effect to you guys that have had this done ?

Also, silly question but does it cause any complication with your MOT ?
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PostSubject: Re: New Red9 Design wishbone and R&P front end   New Red9 Design wishbone and R&P front end - Page 3 EmptyThu Aug 24, 2017 9:23 am

@tjcbhill wrote:
Serious looking kit ! I am very keen to have one fitted. I am assuming you need to tell your insurance company? did that have any detrimental effect to you guys that have had this done ?

Also, silly question but does it cause any complication with your MOT ?

It's certainly advisable to tell your insurance company, as per any modification. They wouldn't normally have any issues, as long as they understand that it is a modification intended to improve safety rather than performance, unlike installing a Porsche engine or suchlike. It doesn't cause any issues with the MOT, although to be fair I always take our van to the garage which services it, which is run by a T2 owner and enthusiast.
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PostSubject: Re: New Red9 Design wishbone and R&P front end   New Red9 Design wishbone and R&P front end - Page 3 EmptyThu Aug 24, 2017 9:56 am

I am having Red 9 and lite steer fitted by Neil in Oct (red9 10 week delivery) will let you know how it goes. Tim
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Thanks for the replies. I will be interested to hear how you get on, Dennis as I am torn between Lite-Steer, Red9 or both !! Whatever I decide I will calling on the services of Neil as I am lucky to be only about half hour away from him Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: New Red9 Design wishbone and R&P front end   New Red9 Design wishbone and R&P front end - Page 3 EmptyThu Aug 24, 2017 1:55 pm

The man in the vw garage where I have taken mine said about changing all my steering for another one and he was pointing to a t25 so not sure if he meant to that set up he said all supplied and fitted would be around 1500 Euro, if I was to change my steering I would like the red9 and I told him that and he said that was really expensive
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PostSubject: Re: New Red9 Design wishbone and R&P front end   New Red9 Design wishbone and R&P front end - Page 3 EmptyThu Aug 24, 2017 1:59 pm

tjc you are very lucky I am over 300 miles away but the journey will be worth it. Tim
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PostSubject: Re: New Red9 Design wishbone and R&P front end   New Red9 Design wishbone and R&P front end - Page 3 EmptyThu Aug 24, 2017 3:15 pm

Are red9 design still in business as there page has not been updated in some time and looks like business is for sale earlier this year
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Yes still in business spoke to them recently. Tim
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neillitesteer

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They are still trading but it's for sale
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Voyager

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I was at Red9 about a month ago, and their activities seemed to have expanded since I was there last year. If I had a spare million down the sofa I might consider buying them myself, because I suspect there is still a lot of global growth potential with the right distribution and business development. By the way, as Neil will explain better than me, Lite-Steer and Red9 do completely different things. We had Lite-Steer before Red9, and it made the steering much lighter, but there was still a lot of play. When we installed Red9 it made the steering much more precise, and also gave a better ride due to the coilover suspension. I don't know what Red9 would be like without Lite-Steer. I recall that Ian Harris once said that he had a van in with rack and pinion but no power steering and it was almost impossible to drive, but I don't know whether that was Red9.
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PostSubject: Re: New Red9 Design wishbone and R&P front end   New Red9 Design wishbone and R&P front end - Page 3 EmptyThu Aug 24, 2017 5:19 pm

I have just the Red9 system installed and it made the steering alot lighter
The only slight issue is the turning circle is reduced as demonstrated at the sleepover with my boat like turns
Next time we meet Alan have a go in mine to check out the difference without the litesteer
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@MarcusH wrote:
I have just the Red9 system installed and it made the steering alot lighter
The only slight issue is the turning circle is reduced as demonstrated at the sleepover with my boat like turns
Next time we meet Alan have a go in mine to check out the difference without the litesteer

Glad to hear the steering is lighter, is the turning circle very significantly worse or is it a relatively minor niggle would you say ?
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I don't think that the wider turning circle is an issue. You might sometimes find that you need a 4-point turn rather than a 3-point turn, but that's it.
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@Voyager wrote:
I don't think that the wider turning circle is an issue. You might sometimes find that you need a 4-point turn rather than a 3-point turn, but that's it.
Thanks, I can live with that !
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@Kaz5997 wrote:
Hi just fitted a Red9design to my bus , i was so fed up with the (boat) steering, a lot of money but well worth it, drives superb and safe now , as a fully qualified mechanic with my own garage i was able to fit and set up myself with a few mods, thanks to simon for his help and if anybidy wants any advise please feel free to contact me


My garage is trying to fit the kit to my Kombi at the moment but are having problems fitting it without potentially changing the steering column. Does anyone know if this is one of the 'mods' that needs doing still in 2019? If so, why is this not clear on their website?

Daphne the Campervan has now been sitting on their ramp for nearly three weeks after having to wait for a missing servo bracket and me trying to communicate with Simon at Red9 and the new owners in Holland.

Any advice/suggestions gratefully received. Thank you in advance.

Hawys & Daphne
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I am sure Neil at Lite Steer would give you some advice he fitted mine. Tim
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As I mentioned on Facebook, we didn't need to change our steering column. Steve Johnson (sjohno on the forum) installed his own Red9. You could try messaging him. I have his email address but I don't want to post it on the forum. I also have the mobile number for Simon Skelding of Red9.
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The red 9 design business is now owned by Piet Van Grinsven of Van Grinsven classics in the Netherlands, have to say very nice replicas.

I have ordered a wishbone kit from him and should get it the week before Brexit what could possibly go wrong Rolling Eyes I am also going to fit it myself.
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