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PostSubject: New POWER STEERING and DIRECT DRIVE steering available for Brazilian Bay VW T2 models!   Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:30 am

New 'Danbury Direct Drive' ! Modern rack and pinion steering for precise steering is here at last! Retro fit the latest modern steering EXCLUSIVELY available from Danbury Motorcaravans! Retro fit this option for just £1999 + vat!

New power steering option: Combine the above 'Direct Drive' option with POWER STEERING! Yes its true! Power steering is now available along with modern rack and pinion steering EXCLUSIVELY from Danbury Motorcaravans! Just £2999 + vat!


Call 01454 310000 to book your vehicle into our service department now.

There's never been a better time to contact Danbury with many special offers on this month! Order now before the VAT goes back up!

Also: Save up to £6000 on a new VW T5 or T2 Danbury camper and up to £3000 off our new Fiat Scudo 'Versito' campervan model! This offer is for orders recieved this month on stock vehicles! Visit www.danburymotorcaravans.com or call 01454 310000

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PostSubject: Re: New POWER STEERING and DIRECT DRIVE steering available for Brazilian Bay VW T2 models!   Wed Jan 27, 2010 5:47 pm

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New 'Danbury Direct Drive' ! Modern rack and pinion steering for precise steering is here at last! Retro fit the latest modern steering EXCLUSIVELY available from Danbury Motorcaravans! Retro fit this option for just £1999 + vat!

New power steering option: Combine the above 'Direct Drive' option with POWER STEERING! Yes its true! Power steering is now available along with modern rack and pinion steering EXCLUSIVELY from Danbury Motorcaravans! Just £2999 + vat!


Call 01454 310000 to book your vehicle into our service department now.

There's never been a better time to contact Danbury with many special offers on this month! Order now before the VAT goes back up!

Also: Save up to £6000 on a new VW T5 or T2 Danbury camper and up to £3000 off our new Fiat Scudo 'Versito' campervan model! This offer is for orders recieved this month on stock vehicles! Visit www.danburymotorcaravans.com or call 01454 310000

Danbury ' Home is where you park it!'


Sorry mate,
me again!!

Once again false advertising. The rack and pinion steering system has been available for at least the last 3 years for Danburys.

The reason it has been around for so long is that when you convert your buses from LHD to RHD, it knocks out the steering box causing at least another 2 inches play in the steering wheel. Our bus had it's first MOT this year and failed due to the play in the steering box. Luckily my VW garage man is very broad minded and rang a few mates. The excess play in the Danbury steering is a "new VW trait" specific to Danbury. I contacted Danbury and they informed me it was safe, although this is contradictory to 5 old school VW garages I have spoken to.

We are saving to get our rand p steering done for the next MOT otherwise, it will fail. The company we have sourced is cheaper than your option as well. Fitting a new Brazilian steering box again is not an option as it doesn't solve the problem.

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PostSubject: Re: New POWER STEERING and DIRECT DRIVE steering available for Brazilian Bay VW T2 models!   Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:34 pm

Let us know how you get on with the conversion Den.

Just as an aside, my RHD Danbury is an '04 and has not had a problem getting through an MOT due to its steering .... so far. It would be interesting to see if anyone else has had this issue.

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PostSubject: Re: New POWER STEERING and DIRECT DRIVE steering available for Brazilian Bay VW T2 models!   Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:20 am

We are hoping to get the steering done before or on the MOT in June in prep for the big trip round Europe.

The garage I go to has fitted 2 Brazilians with the new rack and pinion and the owners noticed a marked difference. Should point out that both the buses were converted from left to right hand drive.

Our mechanic reckons that non converted buses are just fine but conversion, knocks the box quite badly.

Fingers crossed it will all be good!
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PostSubject: Re: New POWER STEERING and DIRECT DRIVE steering available for Brazilian Bay VW T2 models!   Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:14 am

Hi Denni - The Danbury conversion from left to right hand drive does NOT cause any play in the steering box. The same steering box (brand new from VW) is used if the car is ordered left or right hand drive and nothing we do in the conversion alters the 'play'. Any steering box play should be adjusted on each of the vehicles services ( as it always has been on a VW T2 bus of any age ). The rack and pinion steering option is only availble from Danbury for new watercooled T2 and has never been available before. The speed sensitive power steering option is also exclusive to Danbury. The Brazilian chassis is different to the older German model. This should explain everything.
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PostSubject: Re: New POWER STEERING and DIRECT DRIVE steering available for Brazilian Bay VW T2 models!   Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:50 am

Hi mate,
I have been told different from at least 4 VW old school garage owners, one of whom is a T2 specialist and has been for 20 years.

Having had a few original T2's, the play in our Danbury is significantly more than the originals and even after adjustment and a new steering box, it then had to be adjusted 2 months later due to slight variation and as you said above, the Brazilian chassis is different from the German one which would explain that a simple conversion on an old German T2 causes no problems but on the Brazilian, it clearly does cause a problem due to the different shape.

Also, I beg to differ with regards to the rack and pinion option.
We were asked if we wanted it fitted last March and it wasn't by Danbury.

Hope all is good, Den
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PostSubject: Re: New POWER STEERING and DIRECT DRIVE steering available for Brazilian Bay VW T2 models!   Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:10 pm

Hi Denni - Like I said the conversion doesnt alter the steering box so its not down to that (as Tim has said to you his steering on his 6 year old Danbury passes the MOT with no problems) Who offered you the rack and pinion steering and is it for air or water cooled models and German or Brazilian?
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PostSubject: Re: New POWER STEERING and DIRECT DRIVE steering available for Brazilian Bay VW T2 models!   Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:42 pm

Hi mate,
the rack and pinion steering was I guess offered by the same company that you have asked to engineer it for you?

This was at the start of last year, so that proves that they were available before Oct as in your original post, so I'm guessing you have tried to corner the market there by asking the "engineering" company to solely supply you, then rebranding them "direct drive"

If you hunt around on the net, or know a good old fashioned vw mechanic with contacts, you can get one.

Like I said, they are available from other companies for all water and aircooled models, Brazilian and German, just have to know where to look.....
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PostSubject: Re: New POWER STEERING and DIRECT DRIVE steering available for Brazilian Bay VW T2 models!   Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:29 pm

We'll agree to disagree on that one..........You cant buy one anywhere else but from Danbury and this project has only just been completed so there was nothing for a watercooled Brazilian at the start of 2009 from any company. Dont want to argue though as you seem keen to have your say. Older german models yes but not w/c Brazilian.......
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PostSubject: Re: New POWER STEERING and DIRECT DRIVE steering available for Brazilian Bay VW T2 models!   Thu Jan 28, 2010 4:42 pm

I think there are a couple of important things to bare in mind here:

1. The Brazilian T2c (its official title) - whilst resembling the German T2b - has significant engineering differences - in both aircooled and watercooled versions. Such differences, that it includes many parts from other models in the Volkswagen Range. For this reason I think it would be unrealistic for a lot of VW specialists to know the intricacies of the vehicle, given that the Brazilian has only been with us in the UK for less than 10 years. However this doesn't mean said specialists aren't capable of undertaking work on the Brazilian T2. My mechanic used to work on original T2s when he was doing his apprenticeship with a Volkswagen dealer and was delighted when I turned up with my Kombi - at his own VW business - to see the changes and work on the latest variant.

2. This can't be a common complaint as I've not read/heard about it anywhere else. People who are happy with their T2s don't tend to post to say they are - they just are. I'm just one of those who loves his Bay so much I want to shout about it on the internet and would encourage others to do so.

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PostSubject: Re: New POWER STEERING and DIRECT DRIVE steering available for Brazilian Bay VW T2 models!   Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:06 am

Denni wrote:
Hi mate,
the rack and pinion steering was I guess offered by the same company that you have asked to engineer it for you?

This was at the start of last year, so that proves that they were available before Oct as in your original post, so I'm guessing you have tried to corner the market there by asking the "engineering" company to solely supply you, then rebranding them "direct drive"

If you hunt around on the net, or know a good old fashioned vw mechanic with contacts, you can get one.

Like I said, they are available from other companies for all water and aircooled models, Brazilian and German, just have to know where to look.....

You're making a lot of assumptions in this post Den - you use the word "guess" twice. I think it's important to state facts here, not speculation.

Seems only fair too if you name the company that have offered you the rack and pinion option that will correctly fit a Brazilian Bay - both aircooled and watercooled.

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PostSubject: Re: New POWER STEERING and DIRECT DRIVE steering available for Brazilian Bay VW T2 models!   Sat Jan 30, 2010 5:49 pm

Interesting thread! My bay passed its MOT in Jan - its a 55 plate - 2005 built in Brazil, Jan 2006 registered UK. I noticed a real difference after a service - much tighter again. Its never as precise as a rack and pinion - part of the character I guess. We did hire a lowered Brazilian Bay before we bought this one, and the steering was much heavier on the lowered one than our stock height one. For that reason, I don't want to lower ours. I also like the ease of access underneath.
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PostSubject: Re: New POWER STEERING and DIRECT DRIVE steering available for Brazilian Bay VW T2 models!   Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:03 pm

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Denni wrote:
Hi mate,
the rack and pinion steering was I guess offered by the same company that you have asked to engineer it for you?

This was at the start of last year, so that proves that they were available before Oct as in your original post, so I'm guessing you have tried to corner the market there by asking the "engineering" company to solely supply you, then rebranding them "direct drive"

If you hunt around on the net, or know a good old fashioned vw mechanic with contacts, you can get one.

Like I said, they are available from other companies for all water and aircooled models, Brazilian and German, just have to know where to look.....

You're making a lot of assumptions in this post Den - you use the word "guess" twice. I think it's important to state facts here, not speculation.

Seems only fair too if you name the company that have offered you the rack and pinion option that will correctly fit a Brazilian Bay - both aircooled and watercooled.



Hi Tim,
the company that offered to sell me the rack and pinion option a while back (May last year) were Creative Engineering.

I rang them last week to ask them to supply me with one but they do not sell them independantly anymore as they are exclusively now made for Danbury. My mechanic is sourcing the best one from 2 suppliers, when I get the one that is best for the bus, I'll let you know which company it is from and the price.

Hope all is good, I have clearly calmed down now and had a word with Jason :0)
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PostSubject: Re: New POWER STEERING and DIRECT DRIVE steering available for Brazilian Bay VW T2 models!   Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:31 am

Good news Denni. Basketball

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