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PostSubject: When is a Volkswagen not a Volkswagen?   When is a Volkswagen not a Volkswagen? EmptyFri Jan 13, 2012 5:41 am

A percentage of the owners amongst us have experienced the odd derogatory remark about our rides. These normally take the shape of 'it's not a real one though is it' or 'is that one of those fake ones' etc etc ... you get the picture.

So on that basis, reading about the thousands of pounds people are content to throw at a Classic Bay to bring it up to 'show winning standard' - I ask the question - how much of the Volkswagen is actually left of these restored/refurbished T2s? In my view, if you replace everything bar the shell of the vehicle then you're not really buying a Volkswagen - it's a RestoredWagen! Let's for argument say that the shell constitutes 25% of the original vehicle and the remaining 75% is all new kit: engine, gearbox, electrics, interior fittings etc and none of the new stuff fitted was made by VW - is it right to say that the vehicle is still a Volkswagen?

One thing I'm very content about, is that my Kombi is more Volkswagen than it is anything else.

Discuss!

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PostSubject: Re: When is a Volkswagen not a Volkswagen?   When is a Volkswagen not a Volkswagen? EmptyFri Jan 13, 2012 7:41 am

Most classic are restored using Brazilian parts and the more work that is done the more Brazilian they become Smile
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PostSubject: Re: When is a Volkswagen not a Volkswagen?   When is a Volkswagen not a Volkswagen? EmptyFri Jan 13, 2012 7:59 am

Good point daz!

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PostSubject: Re: When is a Volkswagen not a Volkswagen?   When is a Volkswagen not a Volkswagen? EmptyFri Jan 13, 2012 8:00 am

My brother restored an Austin Healey to concourse condition, and whenever he entered it into the club competitions the judging took into consideration the replacement parts used, ie they had to be original Healey parts...... so in my humble opinion if your buying a restored van where the parts are not original Vw parts for that year/spec of vehicle then to call it original is a porkie! (sorry in advance Peppa) pig
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PostSubject: Re: When is a Volkswagen not a Volkswagen?   When is a Volkswagen not a Volkswagen? EmptyFri Jan 13, 2012 8:08 am

Morning Jon - I mean irishman!

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PostSubject: Re: When is a Volkswagen not a Volkswagen?   When is a Volkswagen not a Volkswagen? EmptyFri Jan 13, 2012 8:29 am

Our Kombis are no less VW than a new Golf/Polo etc, restored Dubs are quite likely to be made up of non VW parts so by definition are LESS VW than ours!

PS: Happy Birthday Tim!

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PostSubject: Re: When is a Volkswagen not a Volkswagen?   When is a Volkswagen not a Volkswagen? EmptyFri Jan 13, 2012 4:15 pm

Reminds of the sketch in 'Only fools and horses', the one with Trigger and his broom,
" had my broom for twenty years, it's had three new heads and four handles, but it's the same old broom"......... really? sig 'Jon'

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PostSubject: Re: When is a Volkswagen not a Volkswagen?   When is a Volkswagen not a Volkswagen? EmptyFri Jan 13, 2012 4:37 pm

peppa wrote:
Ignorance comes in many forms,mostly splitscreen,early bay window and late bay window...

"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than a sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity"...Martin Luther King

pig

Go peppa!!!!!

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PostSubject: Re: When is a Volkswagen not a Volkswagen?   When is a Volkswagen not a Volkswagen? EmptyFri Jan 13, 2012 6:24 pm

Yeah, just what I wus finkin'
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PostSubject: Re: When is a Volkswagen not a Volkswagen?   When is a Volkswagen not a Volkswagen? EmptySat Jan 14, 2012 10:20 pm

Tim,

I think this has been clarified in the latest (feb) edition of volksworld camper and bus page 97 "Klapps clinic" two questions were asked, to quote:-

1. How long did VW build the T4?
Answer: So simple. It was built for 14 years, making it the second most lived transporter in VW's history.

2. What was the most?
Answer: The Bay Window of course! Built from 1968 until this very day.

QED

regards,

Eddy
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