Cabin : Flight 001 Location : Brighton, East Sussex U.K. Posts : 14341 Join date : 2009-09-27
Subject: Tango's Spaceroof Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:22 pm
I wanted Tango to be a full 4 berth camper. The decision as to which pop top I'd have fitted was made by 2 factors: ease of operation and the fact that my son (now 17) was starting to find the upper deck in Max a bit claustrophobic. Tango was booked into Spaceroofs just over a week ago and I picked him up yesterday from their Okehampton base, in pretty horrendous weather - heavy winds and rain. But hey, we've all had that drive haven't we?!!
The spec I went for was orange canvas to match the paintwork, grey headlining to match that in the cab area, a light cream for the bed mattress to compliment Tango's tan leather interior. Of course I had the advantage that Tango was a tintop Kombi, so that made the job more straightforward (and a little cheaper) than if converting a BraziBay already fitted with a Danbury pop top, but here's the results:
As you can see the grey plastic headlining panels that are part of the Danbury install are now gone. I have them if anyone needs a spare. Pm me. The rear speakers and spotlights have gone, to be reinstalled in another location, but the original strip lights have a new home. The roof is simple to operate. As it's held down by ratchet straps on both sides, these are simply released, as the popper that holds the front section of the canvas rolled up. A simple push and the roof is elevated via the pneumatic struts. Lowering is the reverse of these actions. There is room for a sleeping bag/duvet on top of the bed when the roof is lowered.
As you can see I also went for the classic type roof rack on the front as I was after the Westy look.
I'm a happy chap!
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Subject: Re: Tango's Spaceroof Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:01 pm
We doo like the 'Westy look' too!
Interested to know if the area over the cab incorporates a plastic roof rack - if so does it have any anchor points for strapping etc.
Looking forward to seeing Tango in person sometime during 2018.
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dazdub
Cabin : Exec 012 Location : wales Posts : 3118 Join date : 2009-10-16
Subject: Re: Tango's Spaceroof Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:04 pm
Very nice roof
TimV Admin
Cabin : Flight 001 Location : Brighton, East Sussex U.K. Posts : 14341 Join date : 2009-09-27
Subject: Re: Tango's Spaceroof Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:09 pm
For those of you interested, I'm in discussions with Spaceroofs to create a Westy style roof rack that will fit in front of a Danbury poptop. More details real soon. Will be self-install.
The roof rack has no bottom so you just see the top of the cab roof. This can be part of the development if we get these created.
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Skytiger
Cabin : Exec 008 Location : Central Scotland Posts : 1792 Join date : 2010-09-04
Subject: Re: Tango's Spaceroof Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:50 pm
Very nice
Any reinforcement put back into the bus to compensate for a the original roof removal?
AnotherBlueOne
Cabin : Club Location : West Midlands Posts : 66 Join date : 2012-09-14
Subject: Re: Tango's Spaceroof Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:44 pm
I would be interested to know how does ease/difficulty/fiddliness of putting the roof down compare with Danbury's? And security of clamping shut once down?
TimV Admin
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Subject: Re: Tango's Spaceroof Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:53 pm
AnotherBlueOne wrote:
I would be interested to know how does ease/difficulty/fiddliness of putting the roof down compare with Danbury's? And security of clamping shut once down?
First off it's half the job as you're only pulling one end down. You just need to watch the canvas towards the rear that it doesn't accidentally get caught in the scissor hinges, but only an issue if there's a side-wind I'd guess. The canvas naturally folds inside the aperture, once down you slip the straps through the guides and lock it down. Another reason I went for the Westy style rack is the shape causes the airflow to go over the top of the roof. The little spoiler that Spaceroofs sell would also do the same. As Pete told me yesterday, they've yet to have a roof pop up on the go. Nope I'm not on commission.
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TimV Admin
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Subject: Re: Tango's Spaceroof Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:54 pm
Skytiger wrote:
Very nice
Any reinforcement put back into the bus to compensate for a the original roof removal?
Think there's at least one crossmember. I'll check next time.
________________________________________________________________________________ Max SportsKombi - The Bay Racer @brazilianvwbay
Subject: Re: Tango's Spaceroof Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:16 pm
I won a 300 pound off voucher for these I think in that raffle we done last year if anyone has a use for it they can have it if it’s still valid I will try and find the email.
Subject: Re: Tango's Spaceroof Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:36 pm
Rachelvw - Our friends at Space Roofs very kindly offered a £200 voucher off any purchase for our on-line auction last year - the closing date was May 4th (be with you - it was all to fit in with the space theme!). The email you are looking for is therefore likely to be in May 2017 or soon thereafter.
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Subject: Re: Tango's Spaceroof Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:48 pm
A good choice Tim, I would recommend these hinges. https://www.buttysbits.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Westfalia_Roof_bed_hinges_T2B_BB-085-3-1-1.jpg
Subject: Re: Tango's Spaceroof Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:22 pm
Out of interest Tim, would you consider changing Max’s poptop for a Spaceroof?
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Subject: Re: Tango's Spaceroof Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:27 pm
harryhornet wrote:
Out of interest Tim, would you consider changing Max’s poptop for a Spaceroof?
Don't know. Ask me in 6 months!
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TimV Admin
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Subject: Re: Tango's Spaceroof Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:28 pm
oldskoolsboy wrote:
A good choice Tim, I would recommend these hinges. https://www.buttysbits.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Westfalia_Roof_bed_hinges_T2B_BB-085-3-1-1.jpg
What do these enable?
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Subject: Re: Tango's Spaceroof Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:44 am
Originally fitted on a westy upper bed. They attach to the loose panel enabling you to swing (like a clam) when making bed up. Have a look on you tube. Westfalia The pop top bed
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Subject: Re: Tango's Spaceroof Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:48 am
Ta.
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ZippyBay
Cabin : Club Location : Guildford Posts : 21 Join date : 2020-07-10
Subject: Re: Tango's Spaceroof Tue Aug 23, 2022 2:41 pm
TimV wrote:
harryhornet wrote:
Out of interest Tim, would you consider changing Max’s poptop for a Spaceroof?
Don't know. Ask me in 6 months!
Hi Tim - what's your thoughts on the space roof now after making the change? Our son was ill over the weekend and I ended up top and vowed never to go up top again as-is. We love our camper but the roof is becoming a sticking point. I'm a bit reluctant to cut more out of the roof and worried the cross member put in as a strengthener will get in the way.
I spent ages looking around the net on Sunday and it looks like the space roof or there appears to be a company Durham way that can fit a wedge roof to the existing hole but put a smaller fibreglass top on but then it needs a wind deflector. Ideally we'd like a wedge with the exiting roof re-purposed. If cutting the roof up then maybe something more like the full length devon roof but that just doesn't seem to be offered by anyone other than refurb. Any thoughts on roof replacements with your VWKampers hat on?
Thanks
TimV Admin
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Subject: Re: Tango's Spaceroof Tue Aug 23, 2022 9:28 pm
ZippyBay wrote:
TimV wrote:
harryhornet wrote:
Out of interest Tim, would you consider changing Max’s poptop for a Spaceroof?
Don't know. Ask me in 6 months!
Hi Tim - what's your thoughts on the space roof now after making the change? Our son was ill over the weekend and I ended up top and vowed never to go up top again as-is. We love our camper but the roof is becoming a sticking point. I'm a bit reluctant to cut more out of the roof and worried the cross member put in as a strengthener will get in the way.
I spent ages looking around the net on Sunday and it looks like the space roof or there appears to be a company Durham way that can fit a wedge roof to the existing hole but put a smaller fibreglass top on but then it needs a wind deflector. Ideally we'd like a wedge with the exiting roof re-purposed. If cutting the roof up then maybe something more like the full length devon roof but that just doesn't seem to be offered by anyone other than refurb. Any thoughts on roof replacements with your VWKampers hat on?
Thanks
Give some serious thought to how long you will actually need to accommodate someone in the pop top longterm. If it's a definite requirement for some years then I'd sell your current Kombi and buy one with a Spaceroof.
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ZippyBay
Cabin : Club Location : Guildford Posts : 21 Join date : 2020-07-10
Subject: Re: Tango's Spaceroof Thu Aug 25, 2022 10:54 am
Hi Tim - thanks for the response and we had started to come to the self-conclusion it was a live with it or change it situation. In a few years our son probably won't want to be going away with Mum and Dad so it won't be a problem after that (but he'll then want to pinch the van for himself!). After getting some of the quirks ironed out on our van we like it too much to change it.
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TimV Admin
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Subject: Re: Tango's Spaceroof Thu Aug 25, 2022 10:56 am
Correct answer!
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22CC
Cabin : Club Location : Buckinghamshire Posts : 8 Join date : 2022-08-14
Subject: Re: Tango's Spaceroof Mon Aug 29, 2022 2:00 pm
Hi @TimV love the roof upgrade you've had on Tango.
Another Tim here, new to the forum having just taken ownership of my own tin-top Brazilian. I'm very much in the market for a roof as we've two children. Space Roofs seem to fit the bill best, and your detailed pictures have been really really helpful!
Hoping you can assist me with a few questions...
1. Judging by the look of your fabric, am I right in assuming you upgraded to the Sauleda canopy? 2. You mentioned the removal of rear speakers and spots, and that both need re-homing. I am interested to know how Space Roofs left the loose ends and wiring after their removal. Did they do a good job here? 3. Where did you end up re-homing the rear speakers?