Subject: Re: Pop Top, Roof Rack and Awning Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:26 pm
We use the pole and clamp connection for our Khyam Sleeper without problem The pole we use "just fits" at the end of the gutter and the rear of the rack We know others have had a problem in the past Think we suggested a pole from these guys to save cutting down a longer pole
We only got four clamps - our pole may also be shorter? (They may have changed design since then) Suggest you run a tape on the available length of gutter to check against the pole size quoted
Hope this helps Rooby Roo
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t24fun
Cabin : Club Location : Near Silverstone, Northamptonshire Posts : 92 Join date : 2011-07-28
Subject: Re: Pop Top, Roof Rack and Awning Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:57 pm
Hi Scooby,
Thanks, but not quite the answer we need.
David
t24fun
Cabin : Club Location : Near Silverstone, Northamptonshire Posts : 92 Join date : 2011-07-28
Subject: Roof Racks and Awnings Sat May 19, 2012 6:56 pm
What experience and what, if any, solution has any member had with attaching an awning (in our case, an Outwell Country Road) with a front roof rack fitted?
We have just bought some sucker attachments and have considered figure of eight, but they did not seem too secure.
We would love to have the benefit of others knowledge.
Kind regards
David and Lyn
Tallulah
Cabin : Flight 011 Location : South Somerset, UK Posts : 5101 Join date : 2011-06-05
Subject: Re: Pop Top, Roof Rack and Awning Sat May 19, 2012 7:23 pm
Pole and clamp works a treat but you need to make sure the pole is not too long.
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olive
Cabin : Club Location : West Essex Posts : 918 Join date : 2010-03-28
Subject: Re: Pop Top, Roof Rack and Awning Sat May 19, 2012 8:02 pm
t24fun wrote:
What experience and what, if any, solution has any member had with attaching an awning (in our case, an Outwell Country Road) with a front roof rack fitted?
We have just bought some sucker attachments and have considered figure of eight, but they did not seem too secure.
We would love to have the benefit of others knowledge.
Kind regards
David and Lyn
We have an Outwell, fit it with pole and clamp, also fitted it with a roof rack and didn't have any problems.
Subject: Re: Pop Top, Roof Rack and Awning Sat May 19, 2012 9:18 pm
We use three bits if figure of 8 with little bits of plastic which makes it fit well (can't remember what it's called, but we got it from Fishbrain) it has stayed on in all weather. We tried the pole and clamp, but didn't get on as well with it.
t24fun
Cabin : Club Location : Near Silverstone, Northamptonshire Posts : 92 Join date : 2011-07-28
Subject: Pole and Clamp Sun May 20, 2012 10:38 am
We used a pole and clamp, pre roof rack, but find that the first support leg of the roof rack, sitting in the gutter, obstructs the pole. How did you get around that?
David and Lyn
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Tallulah
Cabin : Flight 011 Location : South Somerset, UK Posts : 5101 Join date : 2011-06-05
Subject: Re: Pop Top, Roof Rack and Awning Sun May 20, 2012 12:44 pm
We don't have a roof rack so it's not a problem, others have sourced shorter poles or reduced the length of existing poles to get round it.
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butten
Cabin : Club Location : Ceredigion Wales Posts : 61 Join date : 2009-11-09
Subject: Re: Pop Top, Roof Rack and Awning Sun May 20, 2012 7:53 pm
I have the same outwell awning and concur with Lady Js comments. the figure of 8 with a rubber for the majority of the connection and just cut up some smaller pieces of fig 8 to go in between the rack legs. works a treat.
t24fun
Cabin : Club Location : Near Silverstone, Northamptonshire Posts : 92 Join date : 2011-07-28
Subject: Re: Pop Top, Roof Rack and Awning Mon May 21, 2012 8:41 am
Good morning Lady J and Butten,
Please could you explain a little more about the rubber and or little bits of plastic? When we tried the figure of eight, they simply would not stay on the gutter edge.
Regards
David and Lyn T2 4 Fun
TimV Admin
Cabin : Flight 001 Location : Brighton, East Sussex U.K. Posts : 14341 Join date : 2009-09-27
Subject: Re: Pop Top, Roof Rack and Awning Mon May 21, 2012 9:19 am
David, have a look at this link, in particular the Gutter Bulk Strip product:
Fishbrain
Butten and Lady J have made use of fitting a small section of Gutter Bulk Strip to effectively widen the gutter profile on their Kombi, and then attach the figure of 8 connector. The Gutter Bulk strip creates a firmer hold onto the BraziBay.
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t24fun
Cabin : Club Location : Near Silverstone, Northamptonshire Posts : 92 Join date : 2011-07-28
Subject: Re: Pop Top, Roof Rack and Awning Mon May 21, 2012 4:33 pm
Tim,
That was very helpful, thank you.
We have now ordered from Fishbrain, who proved to be really nice people, just like the members of Brazilian VW Bay.Com.
Thanks again.
David and Lyn T2 4 Fun
TimV Admin
Cabin : Flight 001 Location : Brighton, East Sussex U.K. Posts : 14341 Join date : 2009-09-27
Subject: Re: Pop Top, Roof Rack and Awning Mon May 21, 2012 4:44 pm
Good stuff.
To be honest, I reckon the key to successfully docking Kombi and awning is getting the two the right distance from each other. I can't tell you the amount of times at the beginning of a season that I've gone backwards and forwards trying to line my bus up so that the connecting section fits just right. Once it's done though, I mark the wheel positions on the ground so it's an easy job reconnecting.
Having done it once, I seem to remember the knack for each pitch I then visit.
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t24fun
Cabin : Club Location : Near Silverstone, Northamptonshire Posts : 92 Join date : 2011-07-28
Subject: Re: Pop Top, Roof Rack and Awning Mon May 21, 2012 4:51 pm
That's right Tim, marking the wheel position helps a great deal. Our problem only started when we decided that fitting front roof racks was the right thing to do.
It does help with creating inside space, of course.
Subject: Re: Pop Top, Roof Rack and Awning Mon May 21, 2012 5:29 pm
I've used both methods and have to say I find the pole and clamp a lot easier. Erect the awning, fix to van with pole and clamp then pull the awning away from the van until the tunnel is tight, peg down the awning. Done and Done. Simples.
Doesn't seem to work with the figure 8 as it keeps coming unclipped, even with the gutter strip, the tunnel needs to be under tension to to keep it on. Also had problems with the figure 8 leaking in heavy downpoors, something that's never happened with the pole and clamp.
Subject: Re: Pop Top, Roof Rack and Awning Mon May 21, 2012 5:35 pm
kiteman wrote:
I've used both methods and have to say I find the pole and clamp a lot easier. Erect the awning, fix to van with pole and clamp then pull the awning away from the van until the tunnel is tight, peg down the awning. Done and Done. Simples.
Doesn't seem to work with the figure 8 as it keeps coming unclipped, even with the gutter strip, the tunnel needs to be under tension to to keep it on. Also had problems with the figure 8 leaking in heavy downpoors, something that's never happened with the pole and clamp.
Thanks. I keep wondering which is best. Hopefully ordering Motordome soon and needed to know which attachment method to go for.